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von theDarkGeneral: Zitat: I'm glad ghost21 was able to confirm my early reply about Warsmiths and Dark Apostles, and World Eaters w/Bolters... Here's more tidbits over a few shots of bourbon and some cigars... *Chaos Dreads: No longer crazed or deranged, and new plastic (FINALLY) sprue to incorporate some new/old dreadnought close combat weapons types (chainfist, thunderhammer, power scourge, etc.)...but i'm more excited about being able to have Marked Dreads!!! *Assault Berzerkers! Finally, Berzerkers with jump packs counting as Fast Attack! *Slaughterfiends from Apoc will make their way into the Codex, along with versions for "Marked" type ones for other Legions. *HQs making a return (lil' salt): Droomrider, Doombreed, Cypher , along with 5 newish guys. *Unit size changes: Oblitz can come in up to 4, while most Daemon Engines can be 3 for 1... *New Landraider: So we no longer have to suffer with just the old crumby one, has a higher capacity (15?) but is more of "warped" version of one of the Imperial versions. *Force Org Chart: As ghost21 has alluded to, it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts... Zitat: I mean there is to be a "scout unit", but no associated with the World Eaters. And as Brother Dimetrius has already mentioned, Cypher indeed was a Chaos model, and appeared in at least one of our previous Codexes. Could that mean a hint at Dark Angels around the bend? I think that'd be very cool, especially considering they are the FIRST Legion... *Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops. *Possessed: FINALLY getting some love, and according to Legion, they will have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for. *Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart! *Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades. *Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test! *Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad... *Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means... *Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards! *Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules. Im Warseer-Forum wurde daraufhin heiß darüber diskutiert, inwieweit diese Gerüchte stimmen könnten bzw. nur Wishlisting sind. Dazu noch die entsprechende Antwort des Gerüchteautors: Zitat: To think their won't be drawbacks...wait, what are the drawbacks to playing Space Wolves or Grey Knights????.... I don't recall either ghost21 or myself mentioning any such thing...thus far just the wanted positives have been posted. Rage? Modified by LD tests...which are/can be modified by characters and or enemy models within "X" vicinity. Arrogance...newish rule (with a different name), which is almost like looking down upon a foe and not wishing to fight...or tactically fall back. Target Armor Priority...how hard will it be for certain Havoc squads to NOT shoot the Devilfish behind the Crisis Battlesuites? There WON'T be Force Org Chart slots exchanged for another...but access to units from Force Org Chart will be modified according to HQs... Die Gerüchte über die verschiedenen Legionen klingen sehr spannend, ich bin gespannt, was da am Ende bei rauskommt bzw. sich als wahr herausstellt. |
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Ich hab die Barke in meiner Liste |
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Original von Kurl Veranek Ich bin ja eher auf die neuen BT gespannt |
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Original von Kaisavokina ..wenigstens wird die lash schwächer.. ![]() |
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theDarkGeneral mentions a new unit called Brazen Knights consiting of "Skull Champions" (possibly super Khornate CSM Champions) riding Juggernauts |
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ghost21 reports that the plan is for 3 Chaos books. Legions, Renegades and Daemons |
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Original von Schakal Heisst dass wir bekommen die Option auf normal-sterbliches Chaospack? Kultisten? Verräter? Mutanten? *Bitte lass dem so sein!!* |
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Zitat: I do know they originally talked about and sketched up some Legion specific "daemonic riders", which would count as Elite choices. Thousand Sons atop Discs of Tzeentch (3-9), Noise Marines speeding along riding Seekers (3-6), Plague Marines sludging it mounted on Beasts of Nurgle (3-7) and the already mentioned Brazen Knights. Where this all went I don't know, but the talks did mention "what would the other Traitor Legions get?"... One last tidbit, again shake the salt shaker, but "the boyz" did say Chaos would get newish upgrades for our Predators, expanding their weapons upgards, similar to Razorbacks, but without the troop capacity and instead having side mounted weapons. An example would be twin-linked plasma gun turret and single plasma gun side sponsons. NOW THIS HAS ME EXCITED!!! I do hope they're not pullin' my leg! (i'll kick 'em if so!) Zitat: Just some quick news: *Obliterators: Get more then just "energized" weapons, which may include hvy auto-cannon and missle launcher. *Special Characters: Several get varying levels of Eternal Warrior (1-3), which includes Abaddon, Kharn and Typhus and 2 others. *Characters/HQs: A few more options for mid-level characters which according to Legion, can be taken as HQ slots (two for one) or as a separate Elite or Fast or Troop choice that can be split off? Maybe like a unit of Dark Apostles that can then split off as squad leaders? Not sure on this exactly. My buddy often talks to quickly! |
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