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Geschrieben von Stormgarde am 05.01.2010 um 20:05:

 

Loel....

Wieder so kranke Scheisse....

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Geschrieben von Kurl Veranek am 05.01.2010 um 20:33:

 

Der fotogeshopte Pumba ist von Tabletopwelt....

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Geschrieben von Kaisavokina am 05.01.2010 um 20:36:

 

Klingt aber nach Märchenbuch..

Zitat:

If passed the unit gets hatred, if you roll insane courage you get hatred and frenzy. Didn't seem to be a downside if you failed

....

Zitat:

Enemy units in 12" take Ld check, for every number they fail by take a wound no armour

Ja klar...

Zitat:

every (enemy?) wizard within 24" has to pass a leadership check or not be able to cast spells.

Sicher...

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Geschrieben von obaobaboss am 05.01.2010 um 20:39:

 

Dieser Zyklop ist höchstens ein besonderes Char würd ich sagen

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Geschrieben von the_shining am 06.01.2010 um 11:48:

 

Ihr wollt ja nur nicht wahrhaben, dass Ziegen LAME werden Aber Harpien sind mal gute News, hoffe, das stimmt.

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Geschrieben von the_shining am 06.01.2010 um 12:12:

 

Sry for Doppelpost, aber:

Neues Schamanenmodell. Irgendwie sehr menschlich

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Geschrieben von Yersinia pestis am 06.01.2010 um 12:14:

 

schaut aber sehr nice aus

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Geschrieben von obaobaboss am 06.01.2010 um 12:30:

 

Der ist kein Tiermenschenschamane.

Der war bei einem GD das Modell, aber Krieger d. Chaos - Zauberer


weiter gerüchte:

Zitat:

Got to read it myself as well. Gorgon ( i think it was) looks like a giant minotaur, and eats people Cygor is a cyclops giant-gor that gets rerolls to hit against undead, daemons (I think) and things with ward saves. Tragically WS2. Stone Thrower. Jabbersclyth is the jabberwocky thing. Flying, poison, terror, largetarget, 12" tounge attack, strength 5 Doombulls have D3 impact hits, normal minos have 1 each. Each round of combat won gives minos an extra frenzy attack for that combat (lost if combat ends or you lose a round). Beastlord allows a reroll on the beastial roll when fighting against humans (Empire and Bretonians) which basically means it's likely the unit will get what is effectively eternal hatred. Something to do with insane courage adding in Frenzy to the unit he's with with that in-combat-roll thing Great Bray Shaman are T5. The Wild Lore has a spell that summons either a Jabber, Giant, Cygor or Gorgon from a board edge of your choice. Not RIP, but may aswell be from the desription. If the monster takes a wound then the caster takes a T test to see if they take a wound. If the caster dies then the monster disappears.

Zitat:

First spell of the lore was something like all friendlys within 6" get to move D6 towards nearest enemy in sight or forward. Not too sure on that one. There's another that makes the mounts of a unit attack the riders. 2 chariot types, ungor and gor. Ungor one is core, not sure about the gor one, but is pulled by razorgors from what I was told (didn't see that page) Ambush yes. Need to confirm who has it and how it works. Pretty sure it was just gors and ungors for it. I think the bestial roll is for gors and bestigors. Sadly I didn't get a thorough look at all the stuff, moslty brief glimpses. The rare choices all looked to be 200+ points each, giant 205(?) the others 275ish and the spawn at 55 or so. As for the Bestigor stealing banners, pretty sure it just adds an extra combat res to the unit and doesn't confer special rules. Would need to check though.

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Geschrieben von Thypon am 06.01.2010 um 12:56:

 

Der hat ein Auge in der Hand!

Erinnert mich an das Monster von "Pan´s Labyrint".

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Geschrieben von Kurl Veranek am 06.01.2010 um 13:39:

 

Das ist die Gamesday 2010 Miniatur

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Geschrieben von obaobaboss am 06.01.2010 um 18:51:

 

Weiter geht der Reigen:


"
Marks are gone.

Gifts are 1 per army.

Doombull doesn't seem to make minos core (there maybe a special character that does, I don't know)

Minos are S5 basic (plus the other rules we've mentioned) and have recieved a 15 point price hike, so potential there for lots of S7 or hand weapons for extra attacks at S5. Seem decent.

Razorgor, are a unit like minos. M7 T5 4A, S5 with +1S on the charge. same cost as the new minos. Seem decent.

Harpies are special......bugger....

Bestigor are same stat line, no price change and are now special.....I honestly can't understand that move at all. Seems ridiculous that they have actually made bestigor worse than before?!?! I really hope my mate has missed something but I don't believe he has.

The core chariots still have a gor and a bestigor on them.

Ambush now is quite different.

To ambush a unit you must have an "equivalent" unit deployed on the board. Have no idea what that means for joined characters etc.

Can ambush from turn one.

No leadership check required, it now works as such --> Roll a dice for the unit ambushing. On a 1, your opponent gets to place it any board edge. 2-3 it doesn't turn up that turn, 4 turns up on the left flank, 5 turns up on the right flank, 6 you get to choose a table edge. Sounds pretty crap to me.

Centigor massive price hike, are now just classed as normal cav, but are still in light armour, don't seem to be any different otherwise except for the drunken changing to roll a dice at the beginning of the game.1-2, +2I, 3-4 -1M but a reroll on the leadership check to gain hatred once in combat, 5-6 stubborn.
Nothing like what I was hoping for to be honest.

5 rare choices. All seem pretty useful.

Giant and spawn stay the same it seemed.

3 more all are the same points and are a bit more expensive than an upgraded helpit abomination. None have any saving throw or regen etc.

Cyclops giant thing. Anti magic in a basket, not only does every wizard within 24"? need to pass a leadership check to cast spell that turn, any they fail to meet the casting value of, count as miscasts?!?! Seems insane to me.
Has a stonethrower that it can move (not march) and shoot with.
Has a standard attack profile (so not a table like a giant) which is 6 S6. T5 5W.

Jabberwocky thing. that 12" leadership check or suffer wounds for how much you fail by is for every unit within 12" but it does need to have los to the jabber thing (think its that way round rather than the jabber needing los to it, but could be wrong). again T5 5W.

Other big thing.
T6 6A S6 killing blow. Can instead of attacking do a single attack that killing blows on a 4+. If it makes a killing blow then it regains d3 wounds.

A few of the better gifts/items.

gift 20points, +1A
gift 15pts, 5+ scaly skin

this one seems pretty insane. 25pts. bound one use only power level 5. All enemy arcane items within 18" are destroyed. The bearer of each item that is destroyed takes d6S4 hits.......ouch to say the least.

Other items that he could remember

GW, reroll missed hits, 40 points
2 handed weapon, +1d3 attacks, if 6 has rolled ignore armour.

however there didn't seem to be ANY ward saves except a 2+ ward against flaming attacks (which also gave the unit a 4+ ward against flaming). There was a light armour which gave regen for 50 points. (obvious combo with those two assuming one's a talisman and ones an armour, you can bet your life it'll be more expensive than a simple 4+ ward which it basically is)."

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Geschrieben von the_shining am 06.01.2010 um 19:46:

 

Eh ned schlecht.
Hinterhalt klingt zwar recht shice, aber Minos mit ST7 sind goil. Und auch die großen Viecher scheinen Spaß zu machen

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Geschrieben von Stormgarde am 06.01.2010 um 19:56:

 

Scön, nochmal 2 Viecher zum Verbieten...

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Geschrieben von Yersinia pestis am 06.01.2010 um 21:08:

 

Was hat die Ratte gesagt, TIERE WERDEN IMBARRRR!!!!

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Geschrieben von obaobaboss am 06.01.2010 um 21:27:

 

Naja, bis jetzt hab ich nix von unnachgiebig, unerschütterlich, Regeneration, drölfzigtausend Attacken gelesen. Nur seltsame Sonderregeln.

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Geschrieben von obaobaboss am 06.01.2010 um 21:44:

 

Weitarrrrr



Magielehre:
Zitat:
Magic - Lore of the Wild (7 spells!) 0-6 like the old Tzeentch
0- Bestial Surge - 7+ movement spell, doesn't make you charge though, might be faq'd

1- Viletide - 7+ 5d6 S1 24" magic missles

2 - Devolve, 9+, enemy units within 12" take ld, amount failed = # of wounds with no AS

3 - bray-scream, 10+, one character within 12" makes a breath weapon attack at s3 with no AS (I like this one)

4 - Traitor-kin, 10+, all enemy models within 12" riding a mount of any kind suffer number of attacks = mounts attacks w/ same S. same for monsters & handlers and chariots. no AS bonus for mounted or barding, etc. (Hello Hydras! )

5 - mantle of ghorok, 13+, friendly character within 6", model gains +d6 S and +d6 S (max 10), if 1 or more 6's rolled, model suffers a wound with no saves of any kind (Interesting one, and can be potentially devastating)


6 - Savage dominion, 16+, 'summon' a giant, gorghon or jabberslythe, place at any point on table edge and move as if returning from pursuing an enemy off the table
Magische Gegenstände und Chaosgeschenke
Zitat:
Mutations! - +1 init (cheap), 5+ scaly skin (cheap), armour piercing (cheap), model and unit are stubborn (pricey, but oh so worth it)

4 pages of Items

Ramhorn helm, (costs just over 2 gors worth), 6+ AS that can be combined as normal - for each successful as made, the bearer can make an attack at base strength

Trollhide Armour makes a return, but actually does what it should do this time, costs what you'd expect for regen.

Blade-blunter armour (Heavy) - end of combat phase, d6 for each magic weapon that hit bearer, 2+ weapon now mundane


Pelt of the shadowgave, light armour, -1 to hit for shooting at him or unit (useful!) and -2 to spells cast at unit

Blackened plate, heavy armour, 2+ ward vs flaming, unit has 4+ ward vs flaming

There's a pricey killing blow item - (most of yer points) killing blow plus when the character kills a character in a challenge, they become unbreakable and cause terror. This carries onto whatever unit the character was with.

Edit - All yer points item - Their LD is used for your S

We've got that Bonecrusher mace back, this time Stonecrusher, +3S and not a GW. S10 vs Steamtanks, Chariots, Warshrines, Corpse Cart etc.

Nangelder, cause terror and models wounded by this get -1 ld per wound suffered

Hunting spear, spear in cc, single bolt from bolt thrower, may shoot after moving (not marched) and may S&S

Axes of khorgor, two hands, +1A, re-roll missed to hit in cc (Cheaper this time)


Two handed weapon, +d3 attacks and if a 6 is rolled, they ignore armour - rolled at start of combat, until end of phase

Brass cleaver, single bonus attack against each model in btb

Everbleed, every time suffer a wound, on a 6, model suffers another wound with no saves of any kind and keep rolling as long as you keep rolling 6's
Verschiedenes:
Zitat:
Yeh, no acces to Fire lore, and no flaming attacks seen so far.
No Daemon Prince at all.

No marks what so ever, as already mentioned.

Wargors are T5, yes that's a wargor - the hero one. (his stats being 55345243

Doombull - M6, WS6, BSwhocares?, S6, T5, W5, I5, A5, Ld8, Frenzy, Fear, Bloodgreed (+1 Frenzy if win), D3 Impact hits, and unit gets frenzy if the doombull is (starts frenzied) but doesnt use primal fury

Minotaurs at mid 50's points wise, S5 but 1 less initiative. Option for shields and they do cause 1 impact hit with no min. distance and can't be core, not even the SC helps them there.

Harpies can scout for additional points

Cenitgors can be core from the Warhoof guy (mid 100pts) (who looks bloody terrible IMO), has a Unicorn Helmet, hates Welves and MR2.

Wargors are cheaper than current beastlords by 10pts. Beast lords are around 1 MoN (current book price) more expensive, Doombulls are similarly increased in price.


Gors are same price, however the sheild/AHW costs 1 point.

Unors are 1 point more and come with shield, option for spears. Option for cheap SC upgrade.

Ungor raiders are BS3 and armed with Shortbows, 50% more expensive than currently.

All 3 types can ambush, these are the only ones that can, this includes characters.

That Bestial Roll thing I mentioned before is called Primal Fury, though someone may have covered that

Doombulls aren't restricted as before with magic items.

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Geschrieben von Kurl Veranek am 06.01.2010 um 21:54:

 

kranker shice

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Geschrieben von Kaisavokina am 06.01.2010 um 22:29:

 

Ab nächster Woche werden Ziegen gepimpt..

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Geschrieben von the_shining am 06.01.2010 um 22:37:

 

Me need pdf-AB!

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Geschrieben von Yersinia pestis am 06.01.2010 um 22:39:

 

und meine werden dann zusammengebaut und villeicht bemalt !!