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Yersinia pestis
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Dabei seit: 05.05.2006
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Hier mal ein dringend benötigter Thread für die Chaosgerüchte:
Ich sag nur HUIUIUIUI"!!!!!
wenn das so stimmt, dann wirds mit abstand die geilste Armee und ich werde arm
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von theDarkGeneral:
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I'm glad ghost21 was able to confirm my early reply about Warsmiths and Dark Apostles, and World Eaters w/Bolters...
Here's more tidbits over a few shots of bourbon and some cigars...
*Chaos Dreads: No longer crazed or deranged, and new plastic (FINALLY) sprue to incorporate some new/old dreadnought close combat weapons types (chainfist, thunderhammer, power scourge, etc.)...but i'm more excited about being able to have Marked Dreads!!!
*Assault Berzerkers! Finally, Berzerkers with jump packs counting as Fast Attack!
*Slaughterfiends from Apoc will make their way into the Codex, along with versions for "Marked" type ones for other Legions.
*HQs making a return (lil' salt): Droomrider, Doombreed, Cypher , along with 5 newish guys.
*Unit size changes: Oblitz can come in up to 4, while most Daemon Engines can be 3 for 1...
*New Landraider: So we no longer have to suffer with just the old crumby one, has a higher capacity (15?) but is more of "warped" version of one of the Imperial versions.
*Force Org Chart: As ghost21 has alluded to, it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...
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I mean there is to be a "scout unit", but no associated with the World Eaters.
And as Brother Dimetrius has already mentioned, Cypher indeed was a Chaos model, and appeared in at least one of our previous Codexes. Could that mean a hint at Dark Angels around the bend? I think that'd be very cool, especially considering they are the FIRST Legion...
*Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.
*Possessed: FINALLY getting some love, and according to Legion, they will have upgrades either already included or that you can pay for.
*Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!
*Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.
*Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!
*Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...
*Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...
*Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!
*Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.
Im Warseer-Forum wurde daraufhin heiß darüber diskutiert, inwieweit diese Gerüchte stimmen könnten bzw. nur Wishlisting sind. Dazu noch die entsprechende Antwort des Gerüchteautors:
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To think their won't be drawbacks...wait, what are the drawbacks to playing Space Wolves or Grey Knights????....
I don't recall either ghost21 or myself mentioning any such thing...thus far just the wanted positives have been posted.
Rage? Modified by LD tests...which are/can be modified by characters and or enemy models within "X" vicinity.
Arrogance...newish rule (with a different name), which is almost like looking down upon a foe and not wishing to fight...or tactically fall back.
Target Armor Priority...how hard will it be for certain Havoc squads to NOT shoot the Devilfish behind the Crisis Battlesuites?
There WON'T be Force Org Chart slots exchanged for another...but access to units from Force Org Chart will be modified according to HQs...
Die Gerüchte über die verschiedenen Legionen klingen sehr spannend, ich bin gespannt, was da am Ende bei rauskommt bzw. sich als wahr herausstellt.
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Dieser Beitrag wurde 1 mal editiert, zum letzten Mal von Yersinia pestis: 22.11.2011 14:06.
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22.11.2011 14:05 |
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kelsho
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Ajo, erst mal die neue Edi abwarten, erst dann wird man sehen was welcher neue Codex kann...
Aber geil dass das alles so schön variabel werden soll bei den CSM!!! Da wird man nicht mehr "nur" CSM spielen sondern eher einen Orden der CSM. Schön!
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22.11.2011 14:24 |
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Adrian
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Och das wird schon gut werden, Necrons mag ich auch so wie sie sind.
Spoiler! In den Text klicken oder markieren, um Inhalt zu lesen!
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Ich hab die Barke in meiner Liste
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If you see ten then there are a hundred you do not see
If you see a hundred assume that there are a thousand
If you see one alone assume there are ten thousand"
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22.11.2011 14:35 |
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Kurl Veranek
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Dabei seit: 07.11.2006
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Ich bin ja eher auf die neuen BT gespannt aber das klingt auch nett
__________________ Sa'an'ishar
In pain there is life, in darkness endless strength.
Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness.
Keelah se'lai!
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Stormgarde
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Ich bin ja eher auf die neuen BT gespannt |
Dito
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22.11.2011 17:25 |
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Yersinia pestis
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Original von Kaisavokina
..wenigstens wird die lash schwächer..
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ja gerne, wenn ich dafür diese Vielfalt bekomme. Das wäre einfach nur geil!
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22.11.2011 17:49 |
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Stormgarde
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Lash spielt jeder, die muss schwächer werden, sonst kauft niemand neue Sachen...
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22.11.2011 17:58 |
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Yersinia pestis
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theDarkGeneral mentions a new unit called Brazen Knights consiting of "Skull Champions" (possibly super Khornate CSM Champions) riding Juggernauts |
Khornberserker auf Molochen
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30.11.2011 10:12 |
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Yersinia pestis
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30.11.2011 11:20 |
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Stormgarde
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Donnerwolfreiter, wie laaaangweilig!
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30.11.2011 12:38 |
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Yersinia pestis
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09.01.2012 10:39 |
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Schakal
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Dabei seit: 21.10.2011
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Armeen: Khemri, Bretonen, Hochelfen, Imperiale Armee
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ghost21 reports that the plan is for 3 Chaos books. Legions, Renegades and Daemons |
Legions, Renegades and Daemons....
Renegades....
Heisst dass wir bekommen die Option auf normal-sterbliches Chaospack? Kultisten? Verräter? Mutanten? *Bitte lass dem so sein!!*
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JimmyGrill
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Heisst dass wir bekommen die Option auf normal-sterbliches Chaospack? Kultisten? Verräter? Mutanten? *Bitte lass dem so sein!!* |
jo, sollen alle möglichen überläufer sein, inkl. "modern-day marines"
kennt noch wer den codex:EoT mit der liste für lost&damned?
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Yersinia pestis
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Neues:
Chaos schein der nächste Codex zu werden, es ist zwar noch nicht klar wann er wirklich kommt, aber er soll sich schon im Druck befinden!
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I do know they originally talked about and sketched up some Legion specific "daemonic riders", which would count as Elite choices. Thousand Sons atop Discs of Tzeentch (3-9), Noise Marines speeding along riding Seekers (3-6), Plague Marines sludging it mounted on Beasts of Nurgle (3-7) and the already mentioned Brazen Knights. Where this all went I don't know, but the talks did mention "what would the other Traitor Legions get?"...
One last tidbit, again shake the salt shaker, but "the boyz" did say Chaos would get newish upgrades for our Predators, expanding their weapons upgards, similar to Razorbacks, but without the troop capacity and instead having side mounted weapons. An example would be twin-linked plasma gun turret and single plasma gun side sponsons. NOW THIS HAS ME EXCITED!!! I do hope they're not pullin' my leg! (i'll kick 'em if so!)
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Just some quick news:
*Obliterators: Get more then just "energized" weapons, which may include hvy auto-cannon and missle launcher.
*Special Characters: Several get varying levels of Eternal Warrior (1-3), which includes Abaddon, Kharn and Typhus and 2 others.
*Characters/HQs: A few more options for mid-level characters which according to Legion, can be taken as HQ slots (two for one) or as a separate Elite or Fast or Troop choice that can be split off? Maybe like a unit of Dark Apostles that can then split off as squad leaders? Not sure on this exactly. My buddy often talks to quickly! |
Alles nachzulesen auf Warsser.
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